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Gnanasekar-2
Hi all,

          I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
me to get through this process ?
what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?

Thanks and Regards,
SK.Gnanasekar

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Re: mp3 decoder

ved kpl
MAD?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>          I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
> do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
> me to get through this process ?
> what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
> How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> SK.Gnanasekar
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Re: mp3 decoder

Gnanasekar-2
Ya i know mad is there ! i want to make another one which is for mp3..

ved kpl wrote:
MAD?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Gnanasekar [hidden email] wrote:
  
Hi all,

         I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
me to get through this process ?
what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?

Thanks and Regards,
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Re: mp3 decoder

Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ya i know mad is there ! i want to make another one which is for mp3..

mad is for mp3.

If you want to do something like mad, then the best place to start is mad.

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Re: mp3 decoder

Edward Hervey
This thread is starting to become pure ... madness :)

   Edward

On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 23:46 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Ya i know mad is there ! i want to make another one which is for mp3..
>
> mad is for mp3.
>
> If you want to do something like mad, then the best place to start is mad.
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Re: mp3 decoder

Edward Hervey
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If you actually explained WHY you don't want to, or can't, use the mad
plugin, we could give you better pointers.

   Edward

On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 16:52 +0530, Gnanasekar wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>           I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
> do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
> me to get through this process ?
> what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
> How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> SK.Gnanasekar
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Re: mp3 decoder

Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller-2
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Hi,
I think what you should do is explain your motivations, it would be
easier to understand what you are trying to achieve then. Do you want to
write a GStreamer mp3 plugin as a way to teaching yourself about the
GStreamer framework? Or do you need to write a full mp3 decoder with
your companies copyright? Or something else?

If you explain that to us I think we will be better able to suggest a
solution.

Christian

On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:01 +0530, Gnanasekar wrote:

> Ya i know mad is there ! i want to make another one which is for mp3..
>
> ved kpl wrote:
> > MAD?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >  
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >          I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
> > > do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
> > > me to get through this process ?
> > > what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
> > > How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?
> > >
> > > Thanks and Regards,
> > > SK.Gnanasekar
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Re: mp3 decoder

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Ya sure i ll tell you my motive ,

    We need to write mp3 plug-in.As we know that filesrc is there for getting my mp3 input file from Local system and push it to mad plug-in.Here is the decoder part comes.So we planned to replace this mad plug-in with my own plug-in which does as mad does.After all decoder processing done here. we ll be pushing this output to next plug-in through push_pad()(that is alsasink or osssink);.This is what we have in our mind.

For that decoder part we planned to use libmad library for decoding functionality.
Now suggest me what to do ?

Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
Hi,
I think what you should do is explain your motivations, it would be
easier to understand what you are trying to achieve then. Do you want to
write a GStreamer mp3 plugin as a way to teaching yourself about the
GStreamer framework? Or do you need to write a full mp3 decoder with
your companies copyright? Or something else?

If you explain that to us I think we will be better able to suggest a
solution.

Christian

On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:01 +0530, Gnanasekar wrote:
  
Ya i know mad is there ! i want to make another one which is for mp3..

ved kpl wrote: 
    
MAD?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Gnanasekar [hidden email] wrote:
  
      
Hi all,

         I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
me to get through this process ?
what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?

Thanks and Regards,
SK.Gnanasekar

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Re: mp3 decoder

Edward Hervey
You haven't answered the question.

WHY do you want to write an mp3 decoding plugin which:
* uses libmad
* but can't be the already available 'mad' plugin

Is it because (tick the corresponding box):
[ ] you don't understand that mad and libmad are the same thing
[ ] you just want to write one as practice
[ ] you think you can get around legal issues by writing your own
[ ] you have no clue and you're just asking random questions

   Edward

On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 19:43 +0530, Gnanasekar wrote:

>
> Ya sure i ll tell you my motive ,
>
>     We need to write mp3 plug-in.As we know that filesrc is there for
> getting my mp3 input file from Local system and push it to mad
> plug-in.Here is the decoder part comes.So we planned to replace this
> mad plug-in with my own plug-in which does as mad does.After all
> decoder processing done here. we ll be pushing this output to next
> plug-in through push_pad()(that is alsasink or osssink);.This is what
> we have in our mind.
>
> For that decoder part we planned to use libmad library for decoding
> functionality.
> Now suggest me what to do ?
>
> Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I think what you should do is explain your motivations, it would be
> > easier to understand what you are trying to achieve then. Do you want to
> > write a GStreamer mp3 plugin as a way to teaching yourself about the
> > GStreamer framework? Or do you need to write a full mp3 decoder with
> > your companies copyright? Or something else?
> >
> > If you explain that to us I think we will be better able to suggest a
> > solution.
> >
> > Christian
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:01 +0530, Gnanasekar wrote:
> >  
> > > Ya i know mad is there ! i want to make another one which is for mp3..
> > >
> > > ved kpl wrote:
> > >    
> > > > MAD?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > >      
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > >          I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
> > > > > do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
> > > > > me to get through this process ?
> > > > > what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
> > > > > How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and Regards,
> > > > > SK.Gnanasekar
> > > > >
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Re: mp3 decoder

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Thats the requirement for me ....we should mot use existing plug-in ....thats why !

Edward Hervey wrote:
You haven't answered the question.

WHY do you want to write an mp3 decoding plugin which:
* uses libmad
* but can't be the already available 'mad' plugin

Is it because (tick the corresponding box):
[ ] you don't understand that mad and libmad are the same thing
[ ] you just want to write one as practice
[ ] you think you can get around legal issues by writing your own
[ ] you have no clue and you're just asking random questions

   Edward

On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 19:43 +0530, Gnanasekar wrote:
  
Ya sure i ll tell you my motive ,

    We need to write mp3 plug-in.As we know that filesrc is there for
getting my mp3 input file from Local system and push it to mad
plug-in.Here is the decoder part comes.So we planned to replace this
mad plug-in with my own plug-in which does as mad does.After all
decoder processing done here. we ll be pushing this output to next
plug-in through push_pad()(that is alsasink or osssink);.This is what
we have in our mind.

For that decoder part we planned to use libmad library for decoding
functionality.
Now suggest me what to do ? 

Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: 
    
Hi,
I think what you should do is explain your motivations, it would be
easier to understand what you are trying to achieve then. Do you want to
write a GStreamer mp3 plugin as a way to teaching yourself about the
GStreamer framework? Or do you need to write a full mp3 decoder with
your companies copyright? Or something else?

If you explain that to us I think we will be better able to suggest a
solution.

Christian

On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 22:01 +0530, Gnanasekar wrote:
  
      
Ya i know mad is there ! i want to make another one which is for mp3..

ved kpl wrote: 
    
        
MAD?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Gnanasekar [hidden email] wrote:
  
      
          
Hi all,

         I am interested in writing fresh mp3 plug-in for Gstreamer.To
do so i need a mp3 decoder for decoding mp3 audio. Can any one suggest
me to get through this process ?
what decoder seems good and easily understandable for mp3 ?
How can i achieve mp3 plug-in ?

Thanks and Regards,
SK.Gnanasekar

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Re: mp3 decoder

Felipe Contreras
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thats the requirement for me ....we should mot use existing plug-in
> ....thats why !

So basically you don't know why.

My guess is that it's a licensing issue.

If that's the case then perhaps you can use Google Android's mp3
decoder, which has Apache license, so there are no patent issues.

http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/external/opencore.git;a=tree;f=codecs_v2/audio/mp3/dec;h=9b452c101e6b2033c9963768570f6547f3ee5b24;hb=master

Maybe there is ARM-specific stuff, so you would need to modify it, but
better than starting from scratch!

Also, if you are able to compile the OpenMAX IL wrapper too, then you
can use it from GStreamer using gst-openmax's element: omx_mp3dec.

Lots of possibilities, but you need to explain "why".

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Re: mp3 decoder

michael smith-6-3
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Felipe Contreras
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thats the requirement for me ....we should mot use existing plug-in
>> ....thats why !
>
> So basically you don't know why.
>
> My guess is that it's a licensing issue.
>
> If that's the case then perhaps you can use Google Android's mp3
> decoder, which has Apache license, so there are no patent issues.

I assume you meant "there are no copyright issues". The apache license
does not magically make the patent issues surrounding mp3 go away.

Mike

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Re: mp3 decoder

Felipe Contreras
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Michael Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Felipe Contreras
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Gnanasekar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Thats the requirement for me ....we should mot use existing plug-in
>>> ....thats why !
>>
>> So basically you don't know why.
>>
>> My guess is that it's a licensing issue.
>>
>> If that's the case then perhaps you can use Google Android's mp3
>> decoder, which has Apache license, so there are no patent issues.
>
> I assume you meant "there are no copyright issues". The apache license
> does not magically make the patent issues surrounding mp3 go away.

By "no patent issues" I meant that if a company contributes code to it
it doesn't mean give your patents away. I don't know if it's true or
not, but companies seem to think that contributing to GPL code means
give away their patents. The Google Android stuff specifically says
that wouldn't happen, so I guess there's a patent issue that doesn't
happen in their code.

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